Cherry Saturday 3-9-13

We’re simplifyng the Crusie-verse because I’m overwhelmed (why, yes, it is all about me), so from now on, the Cherry Forums/Ning and the JCF list along with all of you Argh People will meet here every Saturday to talk about whatever you damn well please. Yes, that is a little frightening, but I’m confident you’ll all contribute with grace, wit, snark, and edge. Because you always do.

Have at it.

60 thoughts on “Cherry Saturday 3-9-13

  1. Wave hi to fellow “Cherries.” I’ve been absent from many of my groups due to real life being too busy but when I get a personal email from Jill P. I have to show up and at least say hi. I like the idea of having one day to connect.

  2. Grace, wit, snark AND edge? Sheesh, Jenny, you don’t ask much.

    Anything we want, eh? For once I can’t think of a thing.

    1. Fun times! I have missed the old Cherry group.

      Gin–very excited for the Whedon adaptation.

  3. Wow! I made the list. Heh heh. Thanks, Jill. Hi Cherries.
    Gin, I love that trailer, but I’m still going to take another look right now to kickstart my morning. I’ve seen the play several times but one of the best versions was in the park in Washington DC about fifteen years ago. Definitely going to see the movie.

  4. Of course it’s all about you, Jenny! You’re THE Cherry. πŸ™‚ xoxo

    Hi Everyone,
    I’ve missed you all. Life has gotten busy and I’ve been overwhelmed, but I think about you all the time. πŸ™‚ I’m looking forward to checking in on Saturdays and seeing what everyone is doing.
    Take care,
    Kim, Cherry Red

  5. *waves madly* Hi Cherries! It’s wonderful to meet like this, although another Cherry Con would be even MORE fun! (I know it’s not on the cards, but we can dream…)

  6. I guess I could be described as an Arrgh lurker. But since at the moment I’m feeling pretty arrgh on my own behalf, I thought I’d chime in. Lately there has been a rash of 60-something women patting me on the head and/or saying “good girl”. I am 54, not 12. This. Must. Stop.
    Thank you for listening.

  7. Kate, at least you had a very clever comment! I got nothin’, so I’m going to say the internet ate mine too πŸ™‚

    Hiya, Cherries, Betties, and Arghers! Hiya Jenny and Lani!

  8. tiptoes in… test… pause…

    I don’t know whether to say I’ll try not to use my magic to break anything or go all Weasley on you with – “I solemnly swear I am up to no good.”

    Hey y’all!

  9. Delighted to be included, but am a little unclear on a few concepts:
    As an “arg” newbie, can anyone tell me about the other groups?
    Also, am I allowed to skip snarky and go directly to “raving groupie fan”?
    Have been rereading Crusie books-and having a mighty good time doing it!

  10. Good to see all of you ! Kay reminded me that if there is anything on JCF that you want to save to your computer do it this week. So, I went digging around. Could not find anything about the Fainting Goats but there is a whole bunch of stuff worth looking at or saving. Lots of photos of Cherries and gatherings. Back to Nov 2001. Pics of Cherry babies who are now 10-12 years old. Pics of pets. First scenes, writing discusssions.
    Rox’s spreadsheet and analysis of Bet Me.
    I am going to steal some of the discussion topics and use them here.

    Anyway-it is worth a look.

    1. Check with Jill to be sure, but I think the archives of JCF will remain available. It’s just the Cherry Ning that will likely be inaccessible, and it doesn’t have the wealth of stuff that was at JCF.

    2. Oh gosh I need to figure out how to log back into JCF to retrieve stuff. I used to participate a lot (as CherryOnTop) before graduate school ate my life, and steal a bunch of things to share on my personal blog.

    3. I hope you can save some things. My yahoo account login has been hacked so many times, I only get a grunt and a “you’re kidding, right” look from my Sophie Mac if I even act like I’m going to go there.

      Big {{{{HUGS}}}} Jill – Miss you!!!

    1. Wow, that list needs updating, Jill! (and I say that not because it doesn’t have my books. Okay, not *just* because. πŸ™‚

  11. Hmmm…shall I share a Whedon tale? Several of the wonderful ladies who write for GeekMom are at SXSW this weekend. They ran into just in a bar. Literally, as apparently Nicole Wakelin saved Joss from falling into the bar.
    I believe over on Facebook she said she wasn’t washing her hand again ever. πŸ™‚

    1. A couple of years ago, he was at the next table at the restaurant I was at. By himself, working on his laptop while he ate dinner (learned later he was a regular there). I managed not to make a nuisance of myself trying to peek over his shoulder.

  12. Umm, hi, all.
    Life is good. I moved to Phoenix about a year ago and have failed to retire as planned. I am walking more and my endurance is improving. My hair is more white. I am trying to figure out how to make new friends when I don’t have the forced interactions of children in school or a desire to join a church. I love my home but am about to launch into a kitchen remodel as it is no longer 1967 where my kitchen is spending time. I am enjoying business travel less. I have another grandchild. I think that’s all the news. Looking forward to catching up with you all. Waving.

    1. Glee, volunteer. Most non-profits are begging for dependable volunteers to help further their cause, whether the group is for children, animals, veterans, literacy, environment, or you name it, I’m sure Phoenix has at least one wonderful group needing a volunteer. Not all non-profits are wonderful, just keep looking for one that values you and your enjoy. Good Luck!

  13. Hey, I just realized, this is a good place to ask about romance gateway drugs. I’m collecting book recs to give to get geek girls into romance. Jenny’s books, of course, and JD Robb but I need some from each subgenre–contemporary, women’s fiction, steampunk, SF, suspense, paranormal…etc. Bear in mind that these new readers are going to want something close to the genre fiction they’re reading, so I’m not sure the uber-alpha male stories are the way to go.

    1. Ilona Andrews. Any of her books. They’re urban fantasy with a strong romance subplot, as a gateway to paranormal romance.

      CS Harris’s Sebastian St. Cyr books are historical mysteries with a strong romantic subplot, and would be a gateway to historical romances.

    2. Some of my favs – -Romantic Suspense – Suzanne Brockmann’s Troubleshooters; Contemporary- SEP’s books; paranormal – Jessica Andersen’s Nightkeepers; Contemporary – Robyn Carr

    3. Try Courtney Milan for historicals. She does a good job having actual reasons why the two characters cannot be together, making you want them to be together, and then resolving it in a coherent, non-cop out way that successfully delivers the warm fuzzies. Also a grasp of history that is both fun, and actually resembles history. She is very much a romance author (not a lot of crossover), but she is very, very good at what she does.

    4. Julia Quinn’s Regency romances. The Bridgerton series especially. Wit and humor.

      Greetings to old and new friends from the Crusieverse. I have stuck pretty much with Argh Ink because it is one of the few things in life that doesn’t require me to remember a password.

    5. I was recently introduced to Loretta Chase (historicals) and she’s GREAT! I like Courtney Milan, too.

      For SF, I think you can’t beat Lois McMaster Bujold — Shards of Honor and Barrayar are a romance and a marriage portmanteau, and I think they are sold together still as “Cordelia’s Honor.” Catherine Asaro is also kind of fun, but I’m not sure how *romantic* they are . . . the series I read was a little misanthropic. Fun, though.

      How about the Amelia Peabody books? They are set in Egypt during the late 1800s and progress through at least WWI. They start with a romance, and then continue on with a lovely marriage.

      For really light urban fantasy, there are Shanna Swendson’s modern fairy tales. The romance fizzes, but never quite catches fire over the course of four books, and then the publishers didn’t buy the fifth book. But they are frothy, fluffy fun, and the romance won’t scare the squeamish out there.

      I love MaryJanice Davidson’s Betsy, Queen of the Vampires books, but . . . they may not be to everyone’s tastes. I can’t stand her werewolves — entirely too doggy. Which is a personal taste. I think she got the dog-like simplicity (sex! food! car! good!) right on the money — I just don’t like spending a whole book with them.

      FWIW, Jenny’s stuff has a big readership amongst the SF fans I know. Story is story!

      1. The Amelia Peabody books start with Crocidile on the Sanbank by Elizabeth Peters who also wrote 2 other series of mystery with some romance and a few stand alones. Her books written under Barbara Michaels are more gothic but also have romantic elements.

        For funny, I’d recommend Tessa Dare’s novels – historical and I’ve greatly enjoyed Jill Shalvis’s Lucky Harbor series – contemporary.

      2. Micki, Shanna Swendson has released additional books in her series. I haven’t gotten to them yet, but nice to know the series didn’t die prematurely.

    6. For people who lean literary fiction, I highly recommend the historical romances of Laura Kinsale and Julie Anne Long (other than JAL’s The Runaway Duke, which kind of just puzzles me how someone so good could do something so bad).

    7. I’m an Argh girl because I came too late to be a Cherry, but I’m also a ReFabber, so I’m thinking I can probably find a place to fit in here. Gateway romance books–definitely Barbara Michaels–I cut my fiction teeth on her, and I was a geek girl.

    8. I went to see Beautiful Creatures at the movies and I’m now reading the books. I now understand why fans of the book didn’t like the move, but watching the movie made me want to read the books, so from that perspective, it was a success for me.

      The books are YA, first person and the protagonist is a male, which I found interesting. There’s the whole Angel/Buffy if we’re ever together the world will end thing, plus casters (witches), magic, other worlds, a badass antagonist or two, overbearing secretive parental figures and obnoxious siblings. What’s not to love!

    9. I like Patricia Briggs as well as Ilona Andrews for urban fantasy; both do a good story with a romantic subplot. I would read anything either one of them wrote (and pretty much have). Beyond her Kate Daniels series and Edge series, Andrews has published a few novellas, my favorite of which is the SF Silver Shark. Briggs has a nice fantasy duology published as Aralorn.

      For steampunk you might try The Iron Duke by Meljean Brook, depending on the age of your geek “girls.” It gets explicit, but the world building is nice.

      For fantasy with a dash of steampunk try The Emperor’s Edge by Lindsay Buroker. The romance is low key, and the books are a lot of fun.

      I just finished Shelley Adina’s Lady of Devices books, which are steampunk adventure with a smidgeon of romance. At first the books read almost like a regency until you get to the steam engines, electric rifles, and airship pirates.

      For something more historical (medieval France) there is Grave Mercy by Robin LeFevers. What’s a killer nun to do when she falls in love with her target? Reads like a historical fantasy, but the heart of the plot is romance.

  14. Bellwether by Connie Willis is an excellent romance masquerading as a sci fi novel. Diana Wynne Jones and Eva Ibbotsen both have written in fantasy genres, both adult and young adult, and both come very close to Crusie-style plotting & banter. Just my opinion, perhaps, though.

  15. Looking forward to Saturdays even more now. Cottage pics on ReFab. Cherry snark over here. All sorts of good times ahead.

  16. Has everyone taken a vow of silence regarding Downton Abbey? Did I miss any fuss over it? Is anyone else an addict?

    1. Ahhh, Downton…Gayle, I’m so glad someone finally brought it up. Although I’ll miss that gorgeous and damn near perfect Matthew Crawley, I’m still in for Season 4. So many of my friends have questioned their loyalty since the car wreck, but hey…life goes on and we’ve got to stay true to Downton. Hoping for a fun, interesting season and heading to to buy the Season 3 on blu-ray, so I can rewatch over the summer.

  17. I know it’s not Saturday, but I just saw this, and if I wait until the next Saturday, it may be too late — I am quite sure that there are quite a few Sherlock (the BBC version) fans among the Cherries, and I’m guessing there are fans of Neil Gaiman (by association with Terry Pratchett, a Cherry favorite), so there might be Cherries who’d be interested in listening to a radio adaptation of Neil Gaiman’s Neverwhere that includes Sherlock actor Benedict Cumberbatch as a supporting character. More info here:

    If the link doesn’t work, go to Neil Gaiman’s journal, and there’s a link in the current entry, beneath a picture of Cumberbatch.

    If I’m reading the site correctly, the first of six episodes will be aired next Saturday, and either then or subsequently, you can listen to it online. It looks like there’s a limited archive timeframe (an episode of Pratchett’s “Eric” is up for listening, but only for a week from the original air date), probably just a week, so if you’re interested, don’t wait to check it out.

  18. Hello Cherries!! I’ve missed you πŸ™‚ And, I’m with Gin, if I wait until next Saturday, who knows what may happen in the chellerverse.

    Anyone else watching the Lizzie Bennet diaries on youtube? My DD got me started. Very cute.

    OH, do we have a Lost Cherry help? Has anyone heard from Jan, Vegemite Cherry?? I haven’t been able to get in touch with her for over a year. :-(….

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