PopD: And Now For Something Completely Different

We’re starting our Hitmen in Love series on PopD Sunday night at 7PM ET with Diana Rigg and Oliver Reed in The Assassination Bureau, but let’s face it, love stories about hitmen are just romantic comedies with extra blood and violence. So we thought for the series after that, starting in April, we’d do a little romcom antidote and go for a series of Guy Comedies:

Guy Comedy is comedy written by guys for guys in a guy POV full of stuff that guys find funny. Guy Comedy doesn’t care how low or ridiculous it goes to make you laugh, or how many marginalized women it uses to accessorize the story, so leave your taste, maturity, and feminism at the door. This is Guy Land.

Both Dodgeball and Hot Tub Time Machine are non-negotiable: they’re goin’ on the list. But after that we went through several ideas, and I did an internet search, and we ended up . . . not sure. At all. So of course, we turn to the Argh People again, forgiving you for having voted for The Holiday for the first series. (What were you thinking?)

Zombies and other monsters are out because that’s horror or sf, but otherwise we’re open. What dumb guy comedies would you add to this list? And what movies do you think MUST be on the list?

Dodgeball
The Hangover
Hot Tub Time Machine

Plus three others:
Anchorman
Animal House
Caddyshack
Fired Up
Real Genius
Stripes
Talladega Nights
Wedding Crashers
Weekend at Bernies

Warning: if this gets too confusing, there’s gonna be another poll.

130 thoughts on “PopD: And Now For Something Completely Different

  1. I think that The Hangover should for sure be on the list. (Which I know it already is, I’m just reaffirming this choice.)

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  2. One vote for Real Genius, and one for Big Trouble with Tim Allen (book by Dave Barry). Also, Revenge of the Nerds and Meatballs.

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  3. Austin Powers
    Mallrats
    Old School (or any Will Ferrell movie)
    Jackass
    Meet the Parents (The whole Foukers series)
    Napoleon Dynamite
    O’ Brother Where Art Thou
    Shallow Hal
    Saving Silverman
    Talladega Nights
    The Whle Nine Yards
    Without a Paddle

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    1. Talladega Nights has to be on there. I don’t know a guy around here who can’t quote the damned thing at the drop of a hat. Or pants.

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  4. Caddyshack? Closest I’ve come to the genre. Luckily, our small-town, closed-ten-years art deco movie house reopens soon. Currently displayed on the board, “Coming Soon, a Theater Near You.” Yea! It’s in walking distance, they discount matinees, real butter on the popcorn. Thinking about it, one of the last movies I saw there – which makes it one of the last movies I saw – is Men in Black. And my husband caught that new movie Jaws on the telly last week.

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  5. Here are two oldies:

    Big Trouble in Little China (w/ Kurt Russell)

    Night Shift (w/ Henry Winkler & Michael Keaton)

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  6. The Big Lebowski & Weekend at Bernies would get the guy vote here.
    Guy movies not on your list that I can think of:
    Top Secret! (1984)
    Harold & Kumar Go to White Castle (2004)
    Beerfest (2006)

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  7. The Hangover is a must! Caddyshack and Animal House are classic guy comedies. The Big Lebowski is more of a dark comedy, but it could still fit the parameters of this series. The Big Lebowski has a pretty big guy cult following, too. I’ve always thought of Swingers as a Guy Dramedy, but again it could fit the parameters of this series.

    I’d suggest Anchor Man, Tommy Boy, Super Troopers or Beerfest (both are Broken Lizard productions), Office Space, Dumb & Dumber (you have to have a Jim Carrey movie), National Lampoon’s Vacation or Billy Madison for true Guy Comedy.

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    1. Oh Super Troopers is hilarious. I watched & rewatched this movie so many times in college. Just a great quotes movie for my friends & me.

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    **40 year old virgin**
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    Office Space
    PineApple Express
    Get Him to the Greek

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  9. I agree with The Hangover, and I’d add Grown Ups but it has your unfavorite in it, so it’s on the No Fly List. Also… Wild Hogs with Travolta, Allen, etc in it. Love that movie.

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  10. Knocked Up (same ouvre as Forty Year Old Virgin)
    Chasing Amy is my favourite of the Kevin Smith movies.
    Ferris Bueller’s Day Off
    Porky’s etc if you want to go back to the 80’s version of the guy sex/gross out com
    Dare I say Happy Gilmore?
    Marx Brothers/Three Stooges/Laurel and Hardy for way back when.
    Those Bing Crosby and Bob Hope On the Road movies.
    The Carry On movies (camp 70’s british stuff)
    Are Sports comedies are separate thing?

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  11. Superbad. Totally fulfills the critiera, “it doesn’t care how or ridiculous it goes to make you laugh, or how many marginalized women it uses to accessorize the story, so leave your taste, maturity, and feminism at the door,” yet also made this girl crack up.

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  12. What about, Very Bad Things? It’s the guys weekend, the bachelor party in Vegas, the dead stripper, etc. It’s black comedy, but comedy that guys love. I remember I kept covering my eyes and saying no this is just wrong, yet I liked the movie.

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      1. In fact, I hate Jeremy Piven to this day because of that movie. I was definately not in the right mood for that.

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  13. Oh, I loved Real Genius! Space Balls is fun. The Hangover is hilarious, even when you feel wrong for laughing.

    I haven’t seen most of these, so I’m looking forward to it.

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  14. Just to be different I’ll suggest:
    Groundhog Day
    City Slickers
    Edward Scissorhands
    and I’ll never understand the attraction, but anything with the Three Stooges.
    BAP!
    “What’s that for? I didn’t do nuthin’!”
    “That’s in case ya do and I’m not around!”
    – Larry and Moe

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  15. I would only make one change to your current list. Remove Fired Up! (which is basically a hybrid of a Dodgeball subplot and American Pie) and replace it with Major League. I know Dodgeball and Caddyshack can both count as sports related movies, but Major League treats the topic with more realism while still being funny.

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  16. The Hangover is a must.
    Weekend at Bernie’s.
    Caddyshack.
    Bachelor Party with Tom Hanks.
    Animal House.

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  17. I wanted to suggest ‘Weird Science’, but needed to check with my resident guy. When I read him your deffinition and list, he solemnly informed me that the list was wrong. ‘Animal House’ is a classic, not just a guy comedy. It set the tone for a generation, says he… He contends that true guy comedy requires farting. He suggested his favorite ‘Hudson Hawk’. Loves the bit about the Pope’s television.
    PS. I think Animal House is guy comedy…

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    1. Hudson Hawk is so ridiculous and terrible, I think Lucy and Jenny would have a great time tearing it apart.

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  18. Don’t Mess with the Zohan
    Shallow Hal
    Blades of Glory
    Real Genius
    Big Trouble in Little China
    The Big Lebowski

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  19. Definately Forty Year Old Virgin, and I think there should be at least one Kevin Smith and I liked the Ferris Buller suggestion.

    I was listening to your podcast of The Holiday and had one of my guy friends who loves guy movies (he and another friend go nuts for Anchorman and the like) and he seemed to like the list of guy movies you give there, especially the definates of Dodgeball and Hot Tub Time Machine, but also The Big Lebowski.

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  20. This is not a genre I tend to enjoy much, but I do like Talladega Nights, Major League, and 40 Yr-Old Virgin.

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  21. Not all zombie movies are horror. Zombieland is so much more romantic comedy than horror. Friends who went to see it in the theater came back fuming about that.

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  22. I think Dodgeball, The Hangover and Hot Tub are all good examples. American Pie, Dumb & Dumber and 40 Year Old Virgin are ok too. There are some very low brow guy comedies that are such bad movies anyway (ex. Porkys or anything with Andrew Dice Clay) that they make your bum cringe that you couldnt pay me to watch all the way through. I second the others choices of Stripes, Wild Hogs and Big Trouble, but I don’t think they are really low brow. Others that are not really low brow but funny “guy” comedies…Something about Mary, Waynes World, The In Laws, Airplane!, Men in Black. I think the movie The Birdcage is hilarious but I have no idea how you would classify it πŸ™‚

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    1. I immediately thought of Something About Mary, too. Two hours of my life I’ll never get back. I should have left that marriage then.

      I do wonder where the line is, since I also think Animal House is a classic–guy-centric, sure, but I love it for “double-secret probation” alone.

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      1. Oh yes. There’s Something about Mary. Was any part of that funny at all? Ugh.
        Also, didn’t see Wild Hogs because it was just another “oh, hey, bunch of male actors with no women in sight unless they’re making them sandwiches while shirtless or something.” In that mood, there’s also “The Expendables”.

        So are we looking for *good* examples of lowbrow guys-guy movies or examples where most women just say “ugh, whatever, have fun playing in the dirt”. Because I haven’t seen it but suspect Superbad and Jackass are prime examples.

        For what it’s worth, Without a Paddle was funny. Funnier that I saw it right after a really well done documentary at the theater about Kerry’s swift boat captaining called something like “Up the River”. So my double feature was a mindbending “Up the River Without a Paddle”.

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  23. I too vote for Real Genius, Stripes, Animal House, Happy Gilmore, and Fired Up. I veto Superbad–the only parts I’ve ever found interesting were the parts with McLovin.

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  24. I vote for anything with Will Farrell in it. Same for Anything with Pauly Shore. I try and avoid Guy comedy since they are usually groaners. – ooh so Jack Black too.

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  25. I am so looking forward to this PopDiva. Especially since you already like two of my favorites, Dodgeball and Hot Tub Time Machine. My hubby and I have a stupid soft spot for dumb guy movies. Don’t judge.
    My suggestions are Superbad, and even though you don’t have them listed, Eurotrip (if only for the Matt Damon cameo in the beginning) and Waiting. They’re so bad they’re good.

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  26. Another vote for The Big Lebowski, Caddyshack, Anchorman, The Hangover, and Old School. Definitely Old School. I’d also add Dinner for Schmucks and Harold and Kumar go to White Castle. And Clerks. Maybe Van Wilder, Road Trip, Tommy Boy? Does Planes, Trains, & Automobiles fit in this genre, or Fast Times at Ridgemont High? And, lastly, would Adventureland count? I’m not sure *what* kind of movie it is.

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    1. Adventureland didn’t seem like guy comedy to me. It’s more like Dazed and Confused crossed with an emo/coming of age story….or something. That one is hard to categorize…

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    1. I believe that’s part of our Ghosts Series for October. Although I think if you can recite an entire movie, you probably can’t critique it, so it may be beyond us.

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  27. At least for my guy friends (I’m 26) Guy Movies include:
    Wedding Crashers (seriously, they saw it like 5 times and dragged me to it for the 6th time, I ended up loving it)
    Anchorman (quotes all the freakin time and held as The Standard of Comedy)
    Zoolander
    Something About Mary
    Dodgeball (Quoted at least as much as Anchorman, if not more)

    I’m not sure if American Pie is a Guy Movie so much as a generation movie. Everyone in high school and college had seen those movies and could quote from them and, taken as a whole, the original series is actually a kind of sweet love story. The guys didn’t love them more than the girls, we all loved them, even the gross parts because, despite being a sort of gross comedy movie, there were a lot of truths in there. Confusion about sex, discomfort with our parents talking about sex, what senior means and whether it’s really as all out important as we’re told it should be, etc.
    Mel Brooks movies are classics, but not sure if they’re guy movies.

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    1. Monty Python is British! Along with Bertie Wooster and a Bit of Frye and Laurie. The favorite genre of the women in my family, not the men.

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  28. I’ll throw in a vote for Big Trouble In Little China (love that movie) and throw in Tango & Cash and The Last Boyscout. Not sure if those have been mentioned. I’d also say Bull Durham, but that probably doesn’t qualify as Guy Comedy. Mostly because I love that movie and hate Guy Comedy. Kudos to you ladies for your willingness to do this. I’d never make it through.

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  29. Not a genre I like much (cannot get through The Big Lebowski).

    But, I vote for
    Real Genius (I submit an infinite number of votes, okay?)
    Stripes
    Caddyshack

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    1. I love the movie. I was just trying to figure out a definition of what a male commedy was, and I had origionally thought of this, but forgot. It doesn’t fit my sex definition, but it does seem like it should fit somewhere.

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      1. The women are nuns (the Penguin) or psychopaths (Carrie Fisher), so sex is sorta not gonna happen. Though I have to say I love the movie. How many times have I said “We’re on a mission…from God”? (Lots, usually on my way to Target.)

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  30. I have not seen The Hangover, but I agree with the other two of the origional three Dodgeball & Hot Tub Time Machine.

    Of the next, I’d agree with:
    Animal House
    Caddyshack
    Stripes
    Talladega Nights
    (Or Old School. Will Ferrell must be represented somewhere)

    Of the proposals from the group, I agree with Something About Mary and The Office. I love The Big Lebowski, although I don’t think of it really as a guy commedy, but I don’t remember it well, so if it qualifies, I’ll be happy to re-watch it – so will the husband. But since it’s been propsed, I’ll add The Mexican, which my husband suggested when we were throwing out titles for Hitmen In Love, but didn’t fit the criteria.

    I don’t think Ferris Bueller qualifies. I think that it is a comming of age commedy, and I’d love to watch it, but it doesn’t work with what I think of with guy commedies: Vaudvillian-type humor (slapstick and sexual), sex as a central focus as either a goal or of the humor, and the gender of the central characters often (but not exclusively) having a thematic role in the story, ie men bonding with men or men proving their masculinity (Animal House, Hot Tub Time Machine, Dodgeball, Old School) and men competing for status (Caddyshack, Talledega Nights, and loosely Stripes and Office Space).

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  31. I suggest you consider doing 8 guy movies. The husband was very nice (and enjoyed) watching te RomComs. But there’s a lot of movies mentioned here.

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    1. Well, we also have Adventure Movies coming up, and Comedy of the Weird, and Heist/Caper Movies, and Mystery/Suspense, and several others. Basically, anything we might think about writing. Or want to watch. We’re kind of rom-com-ed out, too.

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      1. Just want to put in my vote early for 11 Harrowhouse for the Heist/Caper movies. It will be out, finally, on DVD next month. πŸ™‚

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  32. I’ll second Anchorman and Super Troopers.

    Harold and Kumar? American Pie? Road Trip? Dude Where’s My Car? Or are those too teen-guy and we’re looking for adult-guy (although if the definition is “lowbrow”, is there really a difference?)?

    I could probably make a case for anything with Seann William Scott, actually. The boy isn’t really known for choosing highbrow films πŸ˜‰

    I’ve got my husband thinking on this too but we’re discovering that I like this type of movie way better than he does, which is just sad.

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  33. Talladega Nights
    Dumb & Dumber
    Stepbrothers
    The Hangover
    Tropic Thunder (all the leads are guys!)

    Animal House

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  34. Another vote for the Big Lebowski. It’s the one the guys at the office choose for their guys party. As one of the female administrators said “a perfect guy film: bowling, beer, someone peeing on a rug”.

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  35. Do not overlook Paul Rudd joints: Role Models and I Love You Man — of the two, I’d vote for Role Models — it is all about male relationships and dynamics and is HILARIOUS.

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  36. There’s always Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back.
    The Hangover was HILARIOUS but OMG are women marginalized in that. It hurt my soul a little but I laughed and enjoyed it.

    My vote is Harold and Kumar go to White Castle. Of course, I’ve seen it 5 times. But then, I’m an honorary guy in some circles. But maybe that means you shouldn’t pick it. I don’t understand Caddyshack, Dumb and Dumber was funny in the commercials but not in the theater (so awful), and I didn’t get anchorman (but I may have nodded off and don’t like Will Farrell generally), and what the heck was up with Napoleon Dynamite? (Oh and that other one like it that was worse). So maybe those are better choices. Pick a movie that most argh women “just don’t get”.

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  37. I’m not a fan of “guy comedies” but I will say that Anchorman’s fight scene made me laugh so I vote for it to go on there.

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  38. I know you said no zombies but I hate horror movies and loved Shaun of the Dead, otherwise the same crew with Hot Fuzz

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    1. I loved Hot Fuzz which freaked Lani out but then she liked Shaun of the Dead which I haven’t seen yet, so it’ll probably show up somewhere in PopD.

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  39. We did Grosse Pointe Blank. I think it’s too smart to be called a Guy Comedy. Unlike, say, Better Off Dead or the one he did after that that had Summer in the title.

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    1. Oooh Better Off Dead! I love that movie. “I want my two dollars!”

      And One Crazy Summer is fantastically funny. I watch that every time I catch that on television. I think that was Demi Moore’s first movie or pretty close anyways.

      Anything with John Cusack is A-OK with me! πŸ™‚

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  40. This might be out of left field, because it’s a movie you can watch with kids, but I know a lot of guys that LOVED The Sandlot. Especially guys of a certain age – it must remind them of their boyhood.

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  41. This is somewhat off-topic, but your post made me think of romances with hit men and assassins. Anne Stuart is the queen of those, but Evelyn Anthony wrote some great ones, too, including one called THE ASSASSIN: http://www.fantasticfiction.co.uk/a/evelyn-anthony/assassin.htm

    THE TAMARIND SEED involved an assassin (and assassination attempts), but wasn’t strictly speaking a hit man book. Still, if anyone hasn’t read it, I HIGHLY recommend it.

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  42. I have to quibble at Real Genius as a “guy comedy” — it’s a science/geek comedy, and while I know that it’s shocking, we’re _NOT_ all guys. Also, Jordan (the geeky girl) is awesome in it; the gender of the characters is pretty meaningless to the story. That movie got me through both undergraduate and graduate work (I wrote almost my whole thesis and most of my papers with it on in background), and while it’s very funny, it’s definitely not something I’d list as gendered. Lots of other lists it would be fun to use in (among them “the few movies that _don’t_ screw up the science” and “coming of age”), plus it has romance (peripherally, it’s true). Yes, I care deeply about this. Sorry.

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    1. I think you’re right. The humor is really smart in that one. Although I would argue that dating beauticians to get laid and putting somebody’s car in his dorm room is guy comedy stuff.

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  43. I am disappointed that the movie that started the literate but dumb guy movies has not been mentioned. Where the heck is Clerks? Then there is Friday and Next Friday. All hit a few separate genres: guy flicks, stoner flicks, and (in the case of the latter two) urban satire. Yes, all I had to do was look at my family’s movie collection to find almost every movie mentioned thus far.

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  44. And Pineapple Express. What is up with most of the movies having to do with smoking pot? Do men think that is the only thing that can make them act as dumb as they do in these movies? I beg to differ!

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  45. I think someone needs to remind you. YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO WATCH THESE MOVIES. Are you sure you want to do that? No cheating now.

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    1. Believe me, we know. Lani and I really love Dodgeball and Hot Tub Time Machine, and The Hangover is pretty universally praised here. After that, we must be very careful (see the No Rob Schneider rule). But we forced people to sit through some pretty horrible romcoms, so if we stumble on this one, it’ll just be part of the tradition.

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  46. I have to open my mouth (well, you know what I mean) and object to Real Genius going on the guy movie list — it’s actually only lowbrow in a few places, and the rest of it is well thought out, well paced, thought-inducing comedy/ satire. There are no fart jokes, no toilet humor, very little in the way of gratuitous sex and violence, very little swearing, and some surprisingly good performances by the ensemble cast. — As you may have guessed, I’m not a guy, and Real Genius is one of my favorite movies to watch time and time again. Definitely doesn’t belong in with the others!

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  47. My hubby’s favorite guy movie is Stepbrothers with Will Ferrell and I have to admit it made me laugh so hard I shot beer out of my nose!

    “What if she sees me walking out of the shower and sees my chest pubes going to to my ball fro?”

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    1. And this one cracked me up:
      Son to Father: “But dad, this is a man house. We do man things. We go on fishing trips, make our own beef jerky, take shits with the door open, and talk about pussy.”
      Father to Son: “We have literally done none of those things.”

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  48. In addition to H.T.M, The Hangover, and Dodgeball, I would add Anchorman, Wedding Crashers, and ROLE MODELS. I love Paul Rudd.

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  49. I vote for Caddy Shack and Animal House from the list. Just to get some older ones in there like you did for the romcom series.

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  50. Not sure if these fit, because I haven’t seen them but want to: Zoolander, Pineapple Express, and Don’t Mess with the Zohan

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  51. You Don’t Mess With the Zohan had Rob Schnieder in it. Which is sad, because it’s about as low-brow as you can get. Not sure if these qualify, but how about Stuck on You and Forgetting Sarah Marshall. I’m pretty sure the Sarah Marshall one qualifies, and it’s worth it for the puppet vampire opera alone.

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  52. I vote for Rock and Roll High School starring the Ramones. I liked the book and movie of Big Trouble, Dave Barry. But does that make it a non-guy flick? My mom took me to see Blazing Saddles when it first came out in the theaters and I got the VHS for my hubby who played it for our daughters. The line between girl and guy comedies is really blurred in my family.The guy movies my ex liked that I didn’t were mostly blast em up adventure stuff. And the idea of being forced to watch anything with Will Ferrell, Jim Carrey, or Andrew Dice Clay is way beyond my comfort zone.

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  53. Talladega Nights, Dumb & Dumber, Something About Mary.

    I think they qualify as guy comedies even though they had me laughing so hard I snorted various beverages out my nose.

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    1. I saw Something About Mary. I didn’t get it. I also won’t watch it again. Ben Stiller makes guy films. I don’t like any of them. I’ve only liked Madagascar which he was “in”.

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  54. Did Hi Fidelity fall into the romcoms or does it belong here? I second The Blues Brothers. I think the Monty Pythons are in an elevated class all on their own, I’d hate to classify them. If Dumb & Dumber go in, does Ace Ventura?

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  55. I haven’t seen most of these (not a guy, won’t go to guy comedies WITH a guy, for fear of losing all respect for him). The only ones I know and like are the two Val Kilmer movies, and Real Genius was much better than Top Secret, iirc.

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  56. To the Musts I would add:
    Half-Baked
    Hot Fuzz
    Idiocracy
    Kiss Kiss Bang Bang (if you haven’t seen this movie with Robert Downey Jr. and Val Kilmer you must)
    Old School
    Real Genius
    Spaceballs and finally
    Strange Brew

    To the general list I would add:
    The Big Hit (Marky Mark yummy! and hilarious)
    Johnny English
    The Royal Tenenbaums
    Step-Brothers
    Talladega Nights and finally
    Walk Hard

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      1. I will have to try and catch The Big Hit next sunday then! I couldn’t stop laughing at that movie. I love the ridiculousness!

        Also I thought of another movie that should be added. I can’t believe I forgot this one, but Shoot em’ Up is so funny and ridiculous that I nearly spit soda out of my nose while watching it.

        As for KKBB I tell everyone to watch that movie, and if they tell me they didn’t like it I have to re-evaluate our friendship. πŸ™‚

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  57. Late to the party, but I asked a guy of my acquaintance what were his favorite comedies, whether they’re considered “Guy Comedies” or not. His No. 1: My Fair Lady. His wife, grinning, said, “Why can’t a woman be like a man?” And it all became clear, especially as TCM obliged with a broadcast last Sunday Guys celebrating guyness. His other choices: All the Pink Panther movies (with a comment on how the series was originally supposed to star David Niven, but Sellar stole the show).

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  58. Animal House
    Caddyshack
    Blazing Saddles
    Young Frankenstein
    These were my hubbies top picks – I definitely agree that for a guy comdedy Blazing Saddles needs to be on the list. The humor is ALL male. especially the bean scene. It makes young and old men alike ROFL.

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